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Cathy Benscoter's avatar

This is exceedingly well-written. Bravo!

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Nanny Ann's avatar

"BUTCH-BODIED" - knock off the body shaming! I don't like her, either, but no woman should be subject to that any more than a Black man should be called "Boy!"

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Closer to the Edge's avatar

We are curious. Are you a fan of Jasmine Crockett? Are you also aware of all the absolutely vile insults MTG hands out on a near daily basis, like accusing Democrats of bring pedophiles? Marge deserves our scorn. The shape of her body is irrelevant and your feedback is appreciated, and we make no apologies for our disdain.

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Krista Bennett's avatar

yea, we are big fans of Jasmine Crockett. What's your point? That it's ok to talk/act/insult others like they do? the ends justifies the means...slippery slope and your butch-bodied bullshit is just that - a cheap shot

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Dina's avatar

The point is that Jasmine Crockett said "bleach blonde, bad build, butch body" in reference to MTG in a verbal back-and-forth between the two in a House Oversight Committee meeting last May. That's where the phrase comes from—it wasn't just "made up" by CTTE for this article.

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Krista Bennett's avatar

Our point is still valid, AND many of us like me are from the LGTBQ community. Please consider taking a stroll in these shoes, please.

Had you read the entire thread, perhaps you did and missed it, I know exactly where it started in this verbal sparring match. It does not excuse the author of this opinion piece to repeat it, for clickbait shock value, ignoring it pisses a whole lot of their readers off to no end, like me.

So, thanks for your opinion about mine. We disagree. Now go play elsewhere, with the other children. Thanks.

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Dina's avatar

Wow. SOMEONE got up on the wrong side of the bed today. Fine, we disagree. There's no need to call me a "child." Just because something on the Internet offends you, there's no need to play Comment Police and start name-calling and going after everyone who doesn't agree with you.

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Krista Bennett's avatar

Wow. SOMEONE just should've moved right on along. You showed your lack of reading comprehension& were a bit condescending yourself honey (read the all the comments and the entire thread next time) before you come at me telling me the backstory. I actually know more than you. Political scientist/public broadcaster before retirement. Thanks.

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eleanor sanchez's avatar

So much bad news so much at stake that calling her names feels right

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Krista Bennett's avatar

you do you...to each their own...choices...slippery slope, and none of us are immune from the consequences of our free speech

now more than ever

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eleanor sanchez's avatar

Exactly

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Ellie's avatar

I agree however...... we're not dealing with a woman here 😂 it's a vile creature just my opinion 😁✊🏽

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Louise Yanuck's avatar

She and Boebert are a pair of Howler Monkeys.

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Melinda Smith's avatar

I think we need to use other descriptors than homophobic slurs. There are plenty of worse characteristics of MTG.

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Dr. Kat Crispin's avatar

Agreed. As a member of the LGBTQ community, and a proud butch, this upsets me.

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Ellie's avatar

YEAH!!! 👍

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Krista Bennett's avatar

I agree.

We have to roll in the mud with these fascist pigs but we should keep our punches on target and not take cheap shots, like they do

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Ellie's avatar

I agree as well but it would seem we are at a fight or flight point 😔 no matter how much we try to be decent human beings they come back stronger! I'm personally sick of being nice at this point 😩

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Krista Bennett's avatar

I am sick of being "nice" too. However, I'd rather try to stay human, empathetic, decent...taking the high road is difficult, harder but it is better in the long run

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Meg Inwood's avatar

I'm just of the opinion that, since there's finally an entire group of people on whom I can vent a lifetime's accumulated vicious rage, I might as well come up with the most clever and creative insults I can.

Also I've known a lot of butch lesbians in my life, and they don't share a body type except stereotypically.

And Marjorie is WAY too femme for "butch" to apply to her in any way. Oh, so much the makeup she slathers on a face that nothing can improve at this point, since decades of hatefulness have carved lines on her face that can't be hidden no matter how many cosmetics she cakes on.

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eleanor sanchez's avatar

She is hideous

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Dr. Kat Crispin's avatar

Calling MTG “butch-bodied” insults those of us who are proudly butch. I have ZERO desire to be in the same category as her. Plus she is anti-trans and anti-LGBTQ so this really hurts us in our community by equating her with us. I expect better from the “good guys”.

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Ellie's avatar

🤙

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eleanor sanchez's avatar

Fuck that kunt

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Nanny Ann's avatar

that works! 😂

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Deb's avatar

Is “beady-eyed cavecreature” better? She is so full of toxic inner ugliness, it is difficult to escape when looking for the words to describe It. When it comes to MTG, mere character-shaming is insufficient.

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Krista Bennett's avatar

attack her ideology and her cultish histrionics all you want, but when you call a woman, any woman "butch-bodied" I'm gonna call a foul. Not every one has that hour-glass Barbie bigbusted small waist bootilicious body preferred by red-blooded american dudes and frankly, this butch-bodied queer woman has had enough of this kindof crap. stay in the lane where she's makin' a mess, thanks

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Jasmine Crockett provided the Butch bodied question of the court after MTG openly insulted her IIRC Krista, don’t lay the blame of this witty repartee at the authors feet!!

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Krista Bennett's avatar

witty? or juvenile? "fight! fight!" the crowd chanted... I taught middle school. The author piled on, used it in the lead, and there was no need to repeat the insult. clickbait

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Sue's avatar

Though I hate to, I agree. We dont need to sink to their level on everything. Body shaming is too low. When Jasmine did it, Marge had insulted her looks first.

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maggie towne's avatar

Come on people …everyone is just quoting Jasmine Crockett’s comment about this terrifically, nasty ass woman who rules Georgia’s 14th district (right or wrong …who cares?)

ease up… there are more things here to fight about and this is not one of them.

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Krista Bennett's avatar

and that makes using and repeating a bodyshaming LGTBQ slur OK? Sure. For you, but not me. Devil is in the details...and I get to choose what I fight about, when and where.

Your opinion is noted. But you didn't do your homework, or even read thru this thread properly and I'd like to point out I know Jasmine said it to retort to MTG's insults and in kind. I'm cool with that. That's between them. I have a problem with the author's use of it and why, and I now have a problem with apologists/sympathizers like you who tell me to "lighten up"

Perhaps if you had been taunted all your life about being "butch" you'd feel differently, maybe not.

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maggie towne's avatar

It is only my opinion

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Krista Bennett's avatar

in judgment of mine, and I don't care, even the app notifications of your comments (like the one above) are annoying.

duh. captain obvious. I don't care what you think about me and mine. Literally.

I have an opinion about the nature of the published substack piece and the author's choice words in the headline. Where in the hell do you fit into this picture? Nowhere. Have a nice day

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Eric Riley's avatar

I hope to hell that she and the Ackworth PD pigs are held criminally accountable for last night's Roman theater, that the ACLU and human rights organizations hound them in the civil courts....but I won't hold my breath. The inmates are currently running the asylum.

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Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1's avatar

Truer words Eric!!

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maggie towne's avatar

Sue ‘em all

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Mary Richardson's avatar

Total insanity! Omg! 🇨🇦

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Dr. Kat Crispin's avatar

I enjoyed this. Greene is the poster child for deranged MAGA. However, please refrain from using the word “butch” to refer to her. It is insulting to those of us who are proudly and unashamedly butch.

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Suzette's avatar

MTG had a net worth of $700,000 when she entered Congress and is now worth $21 million. How much did she profit after this last round of insider trading? As for the body shaming comments, she loves to dish it out to other people, so she is fair game as far as I am concerned. My Mother used to tell me to never bring myself down to someone else's level, sorry Mom, but with MTG and DJT it is hard not too.

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maggie towne's avatar

I heard 10 million on the dip

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Lynda Parkhurst's avatar

Marjorie Trailer-Green is the epitome of unbridled cruelty and disdain. If she could, she most certainly would be the trap-door handler at a hanging as long as she could have a front row seat.

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Sue's avatar

She is an awful person. The people.who cheered at the rough, physical removal of others expressing themselves was worse. They are all trash.

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Cynthia Santiglia's avatar

MTG is an interesting case. There's clearly mental illness or disorder there, beyond just being a jerk, but unlike the obvious NPD with the prez I can't quite put my (lay person's) finger on it.

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Sharon Hays's avatar

Nah. She's just mean.

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Meg Inwood's avatar

She can only shore up her insecurity and reinforce her fragile ego through cruelty, conscious lies and self-delusion. I think, though, that her insecurity and fragile ego are pathological, in the clinical sense.

She hates herself, and she hates hating herself, and the only way she keeps her self-hatred at bay is by making up reasons to hate other people more. I just don't know what the clinical term for that complex of behaviours is. There has to be a diagnosis for someone who loathes themselves and can only hold it at bay by making up reasons to hate other people even more (and more loudly).

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Tori Stevens's avatar

MTG certainly is a banshee and I enjoyed your article but I don't think the term "butch" is useful and it could be offensive to all women who display masculine traits and/or gender expression. There's nothing wrong with women having strong, fit bodies even if some men find that offensive.

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Deborah Dawes's avatar

Excellent points!!!—but lay off the misogynist body appearance attacks! There is plenty to challenge about her without going to trump-like ‘don’t have to listen to her cause she’s ugly’ type stuff

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V Lowery's avatar

"Butch-bodied"? Cut out the body-shaming! I loathe MTG too, but rude, sexist comments like that are something a Trump follower would resort to.

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Avril Orloff's avatar

I see a lot of comments here about the pros and cons of commenting on MTG’s body. So I’ll comment on something else about her that I think should be uncontroversial at this point: she is a Nazi. And I don’t mean she is merely behaving like a Nazi. She is literally a Nazi. There is no longer anything that distinguishes her from the brownshirts of 1930s Germany except that she speaks English (or something resembling English) rather than German, and I haven’t yet seen her wearing a swastika. Yet.

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Linnea Lindley's avatar

She yells “Liar” out loud during a presidential speech. The very thing she condemns

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Jocelyn Millis's avatar

She unremittingly lies, trying to convince people that heaven is hell, and hell is heaven. Sadly she follows an old playbook that Hitler perfected. The more outrageous her lies the more MAGA swallow them whole.

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