April 5th’s five million was just the beginning. And the US military is full of Americans. Are they going to shoot their own? They did at Kent State. The blowback from that was massive. If a peaceful demonstration like those on April 5th is fired on, there will be twenty million in the streets the next day. We are Americans. But so are the members of the military…they are likely to act like the National Guard in Georgia in 2020, who stood with the demonstrators. We’ll see.
Mr. Dobbertin, the premise on which you base that opinion is of course quite valid; they certainly have in the past. But I think that neither you nor I can predict what will happen now. There is deep and widespread dissatisfaction with this government’s policies, as evidenced by the April 5th demonstrations. The individuals happening to be in the unit asked to fire on demonstrators, and the actions at that moment of the demonstrators themselves would also be factors influencing the outcome. I recently saw a photo of, I think it was the Georgia National Guard, in 2020, having lain down their shields, standing in their riot gear behind the demonstrators that they had been sent to disperse. So there is more than one precedent. We will see.
Agreed! If there's one thing I know, it's that the military (and the veterans) know that Trump and Pete and the rest of those pricks do not have their fucking backs. Those red lines are being crossed as we speak. We shall see. But I'm with you.
Americans shot their family members during the Civil War…how will this be any different? How many of us no longer have contact with friends or family members because they think tRump is great even though his lies are so obvious??? (All politicians lie, is what I usually hear). This is so f*cked up…😮💨
Totally agree with your argument. The Civil War has been referred to as the Brothers’ War. I also am estranged from multiple family members because of our not agreeing on the destructiveness of the rump.
Wouldn't do any good. It is a THEM, not a HIM. Vance is just as bad. I checked and you have to go down 20 layers of the order of succession to find one that is not MAGA. This requires a different strategy.
We Have To have HUGE SHOWING on April 19th. Peaceful & coordinated. The next step per 2025 is to create violence & vandalism as An Excuse For Martial Law.. ANONYMOUS has a new message with ideas and guidelines. It's on tik tok for now .I shared it with the appropriate groups on fb. In a fb "timeout " thru April 9th at 8:? pm.. Watch and share ANONYMOUS. Gather for the 19th. " Kiss - keep it simple stupid " NO VIOLENCE!!
It is very likely that there will be violence, initiated by MAGA provocateurs, to provide excuses for what President Trump wants: an intimidating massacre. Because that is how terrorism works. We have to be super steadfast in our pacifism, our non-violence. Ghandi knew that.
I can only hope you’re wrong. But every year I “hope” there won’t be mosquitoes or fleas on my dogs or too many dreary days or traffic or…, shit! I fear you’re right!
Read my Lips: RepubliCONS control the House. And the Senate If somehow it ever got there. Which it never would right now. Maybe in 2026 if Congress even means anything by then.
Then per 2025.. He will be have to create violence and disturbance on the 19th.. And if you can fake an ear shot and kill innocents then this would be easy !!
I admire your courage in stating facts. I think too many Americans didn't take him seriously and here we are. What I am realizing is that both parties have been corrupt but now the GOP has no boundaries and will do anything.
While it may sound unbelievable, it is really not implausible. We’re going to have to FIGHT HARDER to PREVENT THIS FROM ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE IN THE USA 🇺🇸‼️
I saw a video on TikTok earlier today claiming he had signed an executive order on Inauguration Day to implement the insurrection act on April 20th this month. I was unable to save the video so I can’t repost or restack.
No, it wasn’t. It’s a woman, and I have seen it posted here on Substack several times yesterday. I really could use a primer so that won’t happen again. I’ll go take a good look at the link you sent, thanks.
It’s evil regardless, but Trump himself is not thinking these things up, nor reading legal docs or the constitution. He’s simply not smart enough. Articles like this may give the impression he alone is the problem - and it is MUCH bigger than that. It’s the whole regime and complicity of the Republican Party, judges, and tragically - will likely include the police and military if they perform the actions he is looking to take against us - the non billionaire American citizens who just want fairness, peace, and prosperity!!!
This is the feeling of dread I've been experiencing since 2023, and you nailed it. Now, how can we, the citizenry, stop this?? I'm completely overwhelmed and battling despair.
Hang on tight. We're in this together, offering glimmers of hope while being realistic about what's going on. If nothing else, remember that you are not alone in this upsidedown world of ours.
Eric, thank you! I feel as you do but waver between commitment and despair!
Hope, I want to reiterate what Eric said. I know We, US, the Citizens, hold the power; although it does not feel that way, it is true. I have said before, offering to you now, arms crooked, arm in arm, a wall of protection/support for each other! Look in the mirror say your beautiful name over and over.
Seems like he would be the very first person that the military goes after. After all, he is the king of insurrectionism and obstruction of rights, correct???
A stimulating, entertaing read ... from the distance of my island continent.
You guys have finally reached the real and present danger that Hollywood has always toyed with, and inured you all to believing that there were heroes ever ready to rise unto.
Or maybe he’s got a different military action in mind, such as a foreign attack, attacking Iran or Greenland. THAT would be a distraction! Talk me down.
At least in my mind, there are big questions around if the military will, or won’t, fire on Americans if ordered to do so.
First, there are those in our armed forces who live paycheck to paycheck. Add to that they have families & loved ones who depend on that paycheck to live. It’s a big ask to expect the rank & file to disobey orders. When it’s no secret that when orders are disobeyed, consequences follow. Potentially even arrest & jail on top of a dishonorable discharge.
Now, add to this group the career service men/women. It’s already been proven, at least to my satisfaction, that if those in this group disobey a direct order for any reason they can expect swift removal, and at the very least public humiliation by Trump. Not to mention they can kiss their hard earned pension goodbye.
Trump has been careful to make an example out of any pushback in any of our armed services across the board.
So my question is this, what’s the plan to protect these folks? Incentives are good, but unless it comes with a guarantee of some sort why would any service member stick their neck out?
I’m sorry if I sound negative above,
but this is an important point that clearly needs to be addressed. Is there anyone out there who has experience in this kind of thing? If so, please, hop on here and advise.
Very simple. When the order to fire comes, make sure they aim properly. (Not at the protesters.) To end this, the military leadership must have a plan and assets in place to act decisively at the right moment. The order to fire at protesters must never reach the troops in the streets.
What will actually happen? I have no idea. But at least it’s less than two weeks away. Won’t have to wait long.
Cmon guys! We’re going to the golf course. We’re gonna get him, tie him up and put him in the cabinet. We will lock it. We will pair up and take shifts gaurding it. We get a supply truck and put the whole cabinet in there and drive to the Gulf of México where we get a boat and take the cabinet out to international waters and we dump trump, cabinet and all over the edge. We don’t need to stay and watch it sink. It will.
April 5th’s five million was just the beginning. And the US military is full of Americans. Are they going to shoot their own? They did at Kent State. The blowback from that was massive. If a peaceful demonstration like those on April 5th is fired on, there will be twenty million in the streets the next day. We are Americans. But so are the members of the military…they are likely to act like the National Guard in Georgia in 2020, who stood with the demonstrators. We’ll see.
We cannot set up for failure. Got to be smart & precise. Anonymous has a new tik token out
I totally agree. We cannot set up for failure. The democrats are fighting, we the people are fighting. I don't think Trump will win!
Mr. Lester, if you think Americans will refuse to shoot Americans; I must ask: Where do you live? They will. Make no mistake about it.
Mr. Dobbertin, the premise on which you base that opinion is of course quite valid; they certainly have in the past. But I think that neither you nor I can predict what will happen now. There is deep and widespread dissatisfaction with this government’s policies, as evidenced by the April 5th demonstrations. The individuals happening to be in the unit asked to fire on demonstrators, and the actions at that moment of the demonstrators themselves would also be factors influencing the outcome. I recently saw a photo of, I think it was the Georgia National Guard, in 2020, having lain down their shields, standing in their riot gear behind the demonstrators that they had been sent to disperse. So there is more than one precedent. We will see.
Yessss!!!
Correct. The ones deeply brainwashed certainly will...
I’m afraid I have to agree with you. Backlash happens after the fact. It’s not much help to the victims.
Agreed! If there's one thing I know, it's that the military (and the veterans) know that Trump and Pete and the rest of those pricks do not have their fucking backs. Those red lines are being crossed as we speak. We shall see. But I'm with you.
Americans shot their family members during the Civil War…how will this be any different? How many of us no longer have contact with friends or family members because they think tRump is great even though his lies are so obvious??? (All politicians lie, is what I usually hear). This is so f*cked up…😮💨
Totally agree with your argument. The Civil War has been referred to as the Brothers’ War. I also am estranged from multiple family members because of our not agreeing on the destructiveness of the rump.
Impeach him now!
Wouldn't do any good. It is a THEM, not a HIM. Vance is just as bad. I checked and you have to go down 20 layers of the order of succession to find one that is not MAGA. This requires a different strategy.
We Have To have HUGE SHOWING on April 19th. Peaceful & coordinated. The next step per 2025 is to create violence & vandalism as An Excuse For Martial Law.. ANONYMOUS has a new message with ideas and guidelines. It's on tik tok for now .I shared it with the appropriate groups on fb. In a fb "timeout " thru April 9th at 8:? pm.. Watch and share ANONYMOUS. Gather for the 19th. " Kiss - keep it simple stupid " NO VIOLENCE!!
It is very likely that there will be violence, initiated by MAGA provocateurs, to provide excuses for what President Trump wants: an intimidating massacre. Because that is how terrorism works. We have to be super steadfast in our pacifism, our non-violence. Ghandi knew that.
I can only hope you’re wrong. But every year I “hope” there won’t be mosquitoes or fleas on my dogs or too many dreary days or traffic or…, shit! I fear you’re right!
Read my Lips: RepubliCONS control the House. And the Senate If somehow it ever got there. Which it never would right now. Maybe in 2026 if Congress even means anything by then.
Impeachment will be no good. It’s better that he is put in a secure unit, his mental capacity has tanked.
Then per 2025.. He will be have to create violence and disturbance on the 19th.. And if you can fake an ear shot and kill innocents then this would be easy !!
I admire your courage in stating facts. I think too many Americans didn't take him seriously and here we are. What I am realizing is that both parties have been corrupt but now the GOP has no boundaries and will do anything.
While it may sound unbelievable, it is really not implausible. We’re going to have to FIGHT HARDER to PREVENT THIS FROM ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE IN THE USA 🇺🇸‼️
Watch this clip too. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Di6mQrPgM/?mibextid=uSdriS
I saw a video on TikTok earlier today claiming he had signed an executive order on Inauguration Day to implement the insurrection act on April 20th this month. I was unable to save the video so I can’t repost or restack.
Was this it?👇
https://substack.com/@letsgetintoit2025/note/c-106908445?r=4bb3mq&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
No, it wasn’t. It’s a woman, and I have seen it posted here on Substack several times yesterday. I really could use a primer so that won’t happen again. I’ll go take a good look at the link you sent, thanks.
B…y hell this is unbelievable I don’t understand how US law can condone this ?
he’s waiting for the report which is due on april 20. wonder what it will say…
I’m not feeling positive about that report or what his follow up moves will be. I’m only looking at past behavior.
it's not hard to predict likely outcomes. as usual, i just hope i'm wrong.
My feeling exactly
That’s even scarier than what I saw but definitely worth taking some action. Thanks for sending it.
It’s evil regardless, but Trump himself is not thinking these things up, nor reading legal docs or the constitution. He’s simply not smart enough. Articles like this may give the impression he alone is the problem - and it is MUCH bigger than that. It’s the whole regime and complicity of the Republican Party, judges, and tragically - will likely include the police and military if they perform the actions he is looking to take against us - the non billionaire American citizens who just want fairness, peace, and prosperity!!!
This is the feeling of dread I've been experiencing since 2023, and you nailed it. Now, how can we, the citizenry, stop this?? I'm completely overwhelmed and battling despair.
Hang on tight. We're in this together, offering glimmers of hope while being realistic about what's going on. If nothing else, remember that you are not alone in this upsidedown world of ours.
Eric, thank you! I feel as you do but waver between commitment and despair!
Hope, I want to reiterate what Eric said. I know We, US, the Citizens, hold the power; although it does not feel that way, it is true. I have said before, offering to you now, arms crooked, arm in arm, a wall of protection/support for each other! Look in the mirror say your beautiful name over and over.
Seems like he would be the very first person that the military goes after. After all, he is the king of insurrectionism and obstruction of rights, correct???
He SHOULD be the first they go after.
You are absolutely right, as usual!
The VAST MAJORITY of Americans just don’t “get it!”
They think they can wait til the midterms and walk us all back towards democracy!
IT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THAT!
Know this!
Americans are in the RESISTANCE until we defeat this fascist takeover of our Republic!
We will continue to march, shout and rally against FASCISM!
We will face down armed U. S. Troops and armored U.S. tanks!
Here, in Chicago, we don’t play with dictators! We defeat them!
Go America!
Make our ancestors proud!
Yes, it has been done on a small scale before. trump will do it on a grand scale.
A stimulating, entertaing read ... from the distance of my island continent.
You guys have finally reached the real and present danger that Hollywood has always toyed with, and inured you all to believing that there were heroes ever ready to rise unto.
Sopped in end capitalism ....
I have my doubts.
Civil war beckons.
Yeah.
Or maybe he’s got a different military action in mind, such as a foreign attack, attacking Iran or Greenland. THAT would be a distraction! Talk me down.
At least in my mind, there are big questions around if the military will, or won’t, fire on Americans if ordered to do so.
First, there are those in our armed forces who live paycheck to paycheck. Add to that they have families & loved ones who depend on that paycheck to live. It’s a big ask to expect the rank & file to disobey orders. When it’s no secret that when orders are disobeyed, consequences follow. Potentially even arrest & jail on top of a dishonorable discharge.
Now, add to this group the career service men/women. It’s already been proven, at least to my satisfaction, that if those in this group disobey a direct order for any reason they can expect swift removal, and at the very least public humiliation by Trump. Not to mention they can kiss their hard earned pension goodbye.
Trump has been careful to make an example out of any pushback in any of our armed services across the board.
So my question is this, what’s the plan to protect these folks? Incentives are good, but unless it comes with a guarantee of some sort why would any service member stick their neck out?
I’m sorry if I sound negative above,
but this is an important point that clearly needs to be addressed. Is there anyone out there who has experience in this kind of thing? If so, please, hop on here and advise.
Very simple. When the order to fire comes, make sure they aim properly. (Not at the protesters.) To end this, the military leadership must have a plan and assets in place to act decisively at the right moment. The order to fire at protesters must never reach the troops in the streets.
What will actually happen? I have no idea. But at least it’s less than two weeks away. Won’t have to wait long.
Thanks so much for taking my concerns seriously. Appreciate it friend.
Cmon guys! We’re going to the golf course. We’re gonna get him, tie him up and put him in the cabinet. We will lock it. We will pair up and take shifts gaurding it. We get a supply truck and put the whole cabinet in there and drive to the Gulf of México where we get a boat and take the cabinet out to international waters and we dump trump, cabinet and all over the edge. We don’t need to stay and watch it sink. It will.