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Marianne Clelland's avatar

powerfully written piece! very tragic event and sadly, so common. the genesis of the hate and how you have described, makes it likely we will see this again

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Yvonne McCarthy's avatar

And what kind of society have we become that there are so many like him?

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Susan Whitfield's avatar

Precisely.

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Chris Kuebler's avatar

We have allowed these folks to enclose themselves into their repugnant echo chambers for far too long. 😡😢

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Lynne's avatar

Thank you for choosing not to publish the gunman’s name. Focusing on the victims and their families, rather than giving notoriety to the perpetrator, is a meaningful and responsible decision.

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Susan Whitfield's avatar

Silent (guilty) partners in the 'me too' movement? I worked as a church secretary for a very conservative minister, I was 23. I thought he was a bit weird, even crazy as I typed out his sermons. He once tried to 'show me something that he was sure I would like, in his office. I declined, and started looking for another job.

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Jane 53's avatar

That’s creepy!

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Mike Feder's avatar

This guy, and what he did, is hardly mentioned by Trump and his bizzaro goon-squad because he's a devoted Trumpster and not some crackpot, unaffiliated "Liberal." They're pretending he didn't exist and that his awful crimes were never committed. (Has Trump called the families of the murdered people--had he called the Governor of Michigan?)

This shitbag was running--as you so perfectly put it--completely on the manic fumes of hate, revenge and murder... Like Trump, he carries a grudge where his heart used to be.

Blaming, nursing a year's-long hatred till it grows into a monster, is always easier than struggling to understand yourself, take responsibility for, and repair your life. We ALL know it--Figuring out how to fix yourself--how to learn and forgive is just about the hardest thing a grown human can do...

It's much easier to remain tantrum-throwing child who imagines that everyone is out to get him.

And that's what Trump is peddling to his army of merch-buying, dim-witted zealots; it's what he's facilitating with his every flatulent utterance and stroke of his black pen: Because he was never celebrated sufficiently as God's gift to humanity, and because, like Shitbag, he only understands revenge, he attempts to destroy everyone and everything.

Hard to actually say a thing like this--but Love is wasted on people like this guy and the rest of the Trumpsters--They devour it like a bag of Big Macs and shit it out... It's very, very hard, to oppose them with peace in your heart-- But, since we don't want a Civil War, the only way left to us is Civil Disobedience. They have all the masks and the guns--not mention the Supreme Court and the entire Republican party; so, like the early Christians, Ghandi and Satyagraha, MLK and the Civil Rights marchers, we have to retain our humanity in the face of the everyday bestiality of Trump and his greedy ghouls... It won't be an easy road, considering that the destruction of Democracy creates so much righteous anger--but it's the only way to get back to the light...

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W. A. Lawrence's avatar

Your words cut to the heart of it. The refusal to even acknowledge this horror shows the depth of moral bankruptcy we’re dealing with. What remains is the challenge of holding onto humanity while refusing to let hate and denial define our future.

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Mike Feder's avatar

Yes, you're right!--that's the eternal struggle: Maintaining your humanity--becoming and staying a functioning adult in the midst of this tidal-wave of regression.

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Patricia Faye Morris's avatar

Not sure why he did this but thinking of all the men who’ve been silent partners in the Me Too movement wanting retribution.

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Closer to the Edge's avatar

Retribution for the MeToo movement? We don't understand your comment. Can you please elaborate?

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Patricia Faye Morris's avatar

Yes, it’s against his abusers not the movement.

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Suki Herr's avatar

ThankYou.

I want common sense gun legislation moved up on the Democratic Platform.

There is evidence that choice to use gun violence is mostly along one ideological side, but the only reason I mention this is the need for some restraint that I think only the Democrats can produce as legislation.

The reasons for acting out in violence must be addressed, but access to carry out the violence needs to be curtailed.

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W. A. Lawrence's avatar

You’re right, Suki. Access to guns makes violent impulses far deadlier, and legislation is the one lever we can pull to reduce that risk. Democrats have a responsibility to put gun safety at the center of their platform and deliver laws that match the urgency of this crisis. Limiting the tools of mass violence while addressing the roots of rage is the only path that honors victims and protects future lives.

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Anton Kleinschmidt's avatar

A Dyed in the wool Trumper

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Simon Sez's avatar

They cannot blame the democrats now… like they usually do. Only they have military weapons on civilians’ homes.

We have been occupied by thugs full of hate, bigotry, racism and cruelty. This is what our government promotes,

no surprise that every week a new shooting is in the news.

Unfortunately the guns are pointing in the wrong direction!

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W. A. Lawrence's avatar

Simon, you’ve captured the core tragedy. A government that normalizes hate and floods civilian life with military weapons cannot feign shock when violence spills into churches, schools, and streets. The guns are not a shield of liberty but the very instruments eroding it.

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Simon Sez's avatar

They need guns because they are cowards. Civilized people do not need guns, they have good arguments as result of education.

We are dealing with dishonorable gangsters. The real gangsters had a code of honor and they died for it.

These thugs have nothing but hate inside their minds and hate is always a sign of stupidity, lack of education and self respect.

Listen to what this idiot is spiting here:

https://youtu.be/_MLRcf3diso

This is what children see - republican leaders and this kind of influence on young minds.

No wonder they take guns and shoot.

We will have more shootings than ever before, exactly because of the hate these imbeciles instigate in people.

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Lisa Paulson's avatar

Shitbag it is. Deservedly so.

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Marjorie's avatar

The wording on his shirt, "The suffering of others is not collateral damage, it’s the point." Pretty much the rallying cry for tRump and his cultists.

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David G's avatar

Many people think gun laws or ownership and use rights are a partisan issue, but this is not the case. AIPAC superpacs and lobbyists fund both sides of the aisle. Just saying. (Sometimes I think they take turns who is for or who is against policy - it might be true; it really doesn't matter what side you voted for)

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Velvet Dunn's avatar

Nothing but a piece of rotting fucking human scum

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Chris Kuebler's avatar

I didn’t know Shitbag. But as I understand it… Shitbag was a real shitbag. Like most MAGAs. 😡

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pete gee's avatar

You folks are sure in mighty big trouble!

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W. A. Lawrence's avatar

You are exactly right. He deserves only the full weight of the devastation he caused and the memory of the lives he shattered.

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